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  |hitadvan=0/+3
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  |description=Like Leo's standing light punch, it's an okay anti-air. Use this in close scrambles when standing heavy punch won't suffice.  
  |description=Like Leo's standing light punch, it's an okay anti-air. Use this in close scrambles when standing heavy punch won't suffice. After jumping heavy punch, chain this into Bo Thrust to redizzy Mike & Raph if the situation allows you to.
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  |cancelable=N/S
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  |description=Has decent priority, but it's too slow to combo into itself. This is best used as a chain into Hyakuretsuki (Bo thrust).
  |description=Has decent priority, but it's too slow to combo into itself. This is best used as a chain into Hyakuretsuki (Bo Thrust).
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  |cancelable=N/S
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  |description=Does the same damadge as Leo's and Raph's cr.lk, while having more reach than Leo's. Like Raph's cr.lk, the drawback is that it does less stun. Since it can be canceled into backflip, this move works great as a meter builder.  
  |description=Does the same damadge as Leo's and Raph's cr.lk, while having more reach than Leo's. Like Raph's cr.lk, the drawback is that it does less stun. Since it can be canceled into backflip, this move works great as a meter builder. This is also one of Don's best up-close pokes. Use this instead of standing heavy punch to safely apply pressure.  
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  |description=This move was probably intended to be an anti-air. It works as one, but it should not be used as much as Don’s other anti-airs due to it's mediocre priority and long startup.
  |description=This move was probably intended to be an anti-air. It works as one, but it should not be used as much as Don’s other anti-airs due to it's mediocre priority and long startup. Experiment with it if you're feeling lucky.  
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  |description=Like Leo's j.lp, this move has infinite frames despite the animation inplying that it ends.
  |description=Like Leo's j.lp, this move has infinite frames despite the animation implying that it ends.
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  |description=Less priority than Leo's, but it is still very important as it can also beat certain attacks safely.  
  |description=Less priority than Leo's, but it is still very important as it is a fantastic air-to air that can beat certain attacks safely.  
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|attack=Hyakuretsuki  (Light)
|attack=Hyakuretsuki/Bo Thrust (Light)
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  |description=Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.
  |description=Has more active frames than heavy Hyakuretsuki, but because it lasts longer, using it is not worth it. Favor heavy Bo Thrust in most scenarios. Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.
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  |description=Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.
  |description=Don's main pressure tool. It's mostly used as a combo ender, but it works great as a neutral tool and poke. Keep in mind that it is possible to steer Don during the move's active frames, making it possible to not only poke outside of the opponent's range, but link more hits if it combos too. Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.
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Revision as of 10:14, 9 April 2022

Donatello
Height 5'8"
Weight 170 lbs.
Eyes Black
Age 15
Birthplace Joe's Pet Place, Slowklahoma
Weapons Bo
Favorite Activities Inventing mechanical and electronical devices
Ultimate Goals He needs the money to complete his latest invention

Introduction

Quirks & Tech

Data Arsenal

Pre-jump Frames                        :  
Dizzy                                  :

Movelist

Legend N = Normal chain ok S = Special cancel ok C = CPS Chain ok [] = frames between next active hitbox

  • = After active frame(s) For calculating total move time

Advantage is on hit and block, respectively

Standing Normals

Standing Light Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 6 1 7 96 0/+3 N/S

Like Leo's standing light punch, it's an okay anti-air. Use this in close scrambles when standing heavy punch won't suffice. After jumping heavy punch, chain this into Bo Thrust to redizzy Mike & Raph if the situation allows you to.


Standing Light Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 1 8 96 -1/+2 N

A quick but poor anti air that can be chained with other lights. This move should be avoided for the most part


Close Light Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 1 8 96 -1/+2 N

A chainable low attack that is decent for tick throws


Standing Heavy Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 8 4+3 12 447 -3/0 +1/+4

One of Don's best normals. It is best used as an anti-air or to trade. This move makes for a very good poke in grounded situations, but be mindful when using it in neutral as it can be punished. Throwing it out haphazardly is only really worth it when the opponent is close to being stunned. Second hit is a high. First advantage reflects this case.


Standing Heavy Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 7 5 13 224 -4/-10

A working anti-air that every turtle has. In some situations, it works as a better option than standing heavy punch due to the position of the hitbox.


Close Heavy Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 7 5 7 192 +2/+5

Similar to standing lk in a sense that it's a fairly lousy anti-air. Standing hp should be favored.


Crouching Normals

Crouching Light Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 6 11 96 --4/-1 N/S

Has decent priority, but it's too slow to combo into itself. This is best used as a chain into Hyakuretsuki (Bo Thrust).


Crouching Light Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 1 8 64 -1/+2 N/S

Does the same damadge as Leo's and Raph's cr.lk, while having more reach than Leo's. Like Raph's cr.lk, the drawback is that it does less stun. Since it can be canceled into backflip, this move works great as a meter builder. This is also one of Don's best up-close pokes. Use this instead of standing heavy punch to safely apply pressure.


Crouching Heavy Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 12 5 15 224 -4/-1

This move was probably intended to be an anti-air. It works as one, but it should not be used as much as Don’s other anti-airs due to it's mediocre priority and long startup. Experiment with it if you're feeling lucky.


Crouching Heavy Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 7 10 16 224 KD/-8

A decent slide. It can beat moves like Aska's Hayabusa, and close the gap between you and the opponent. It is safer from farther distances. Use this move with caution as it can be punished on block.


Jumping Normals

Jumping Light Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 6 Infinite N/A 96 N/A

Like Leo's j.lp, this move has infinite frames despite the animation implying that it ends.


Belly Flop (Down+LP)
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 3 Infinite N/A 96 N/A

The universal command aerial all turtles have. It's the best lingering aerial they have though its priority can be questioned.


Jumping Light Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 3 Infinite N/A 64 N/A

A short-range move with low priority that all the turtles have. JHK, JHP, and belly flop should be used instead.


Neutral Jump Light Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 3 Infinite N/A 96 N/A

Tons of active frames, but belly flop should be used over this due to it's longer range.


Jumping Heavy Punch
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 5 N/A 192 N/A

Less priority than Leo's, but it is still very important as it is a fantastic air-to air that can beat certain attacks safely.


Jumping Heavy Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 5 N/A 224 N/A

Great as a crossup move. Because it has higher stun than j.hp, it can be a better combo starter.


Neutral Jump Heavy Kick
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 10 N/A 160 N/A

This move's high hitbox makes it a very situational normal, working in situations like War's DFA


Special Moves

Hyakuretsuki/Bo Thrust (Light)
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 5 1[9]*5 5 297 -19/-16

Has more active frames than heavy Hyakuretsuki, but because it lasts longer, using it is not worth it. Favor heavy Bo Thrust in most scenarios. Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.


Hyakuretsuki/Bo Thrust (Heavy)
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 3 1[4]*4 8 412 +3/+6

Don's main pressure tool. It's mostly used as a combo ender, but it works great as a neutral tool and poke. Keep in mind that it is possible to steer Don during the move's active frames, making it possible to not only poke outside of the opponent's range, but link more hits if it combos too. Pushback after the second hit causes the next to whiff. There's an extra frame of advantage because the final hit lands on the last possible frame when holding forward the entire time.


Ground Claw
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 16 N/A 29 320 0/+3


Dance Attack (Light)
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 22 2[8]2 15 224 KD/+1


Dance Attack (Heavy)
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 22 2[8]*5+2 15 224 KD/+2


Ultimate Attack

Ryou Hadou
Guard Level Startup Active Recovery (whiff) Recovery (hit) Hitstun Advantage on Hit Cancelable?
link 28 N/A 72 256 KD/+23/+8*


Combos/Punishes

Jump in J.HP mash HP for Fierce Bo thrust. This can dizzy when done properly, chaining to itself or the dizzy punish below and being able to redizzy the likes of Mike & Raph.

Cross up J.HK > cr.LP > mash HP for Fierce Bo thrust. (This dizzy punish hits most characters, though Shredder seems avoid the last hit which means it is better to forego the cr.LP) https://www.twitch.tv/yartarr42/clip/EnchantingJazzyRedpandaRitzMitz-4o6j5z1P_CU67ndG?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

Frame Data Quick List

Donatello Startup Active Recovery Advantage
sLP 6 1 7 0/+3
sLK 5 1 8 -1/+2
clLK 5 1 8 -1/+2
sHP 8 4+3 12 -3/0* +1/+4
sHK 7 5 13 -4/-10
clHK 7 5 7 +2/+5
crLP 6 1 11 -4/-1
crLK 5 1 8 -1/+2
crHP 12 5 15 -4/-1
crHK 7 10 16 KD/-8
jLP 6 infinite N/A N/A
BFlop 3 infinite N/A N/A
jLK 3 infinite N/A N/A
djLK 3 infinite N/A N/A
jHP 5 5 N/A N/A
jHK 5 5 N/A N/A
djHK 5 10 N/A N/A
lRB 5 1[9]*5 5 -19/-16
hRB 3 1[4]*4 8 +3/+6
Claw 16 N/A 29 0/+3
lSpn 22 2[8]2 15 KD/+1
hSpn 22 2[8]*5+2 15 KD/+2*
UM 28 N/A 72 KD/+23/+8*


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